its great to see a reasonably priced code-compliant version of this type of product (specifically, a dimmable version). The Junction Box differentiates it... others just have a plastic transformer that direct-wires to 120V. This is okay if you can tuck the plastic box into your own junction box. But, that adds time and cost. In my case (photos attached), this was a PERFECT solution for a low-clearance position where I hit a ceiling joist AND strapping right where i wanted to place a light to center it in the room and where changing the location would have been very obvious. The LED housing easily clears 1/2" drywall. (I used a standard 6" recessed light hole saw... beware that different light wattages appear to have different diameters) You just connect the romex, tuck the junction box up in the ceiling, then pop the light in! AWESOME! As long as the durability of the transformer electronics are good, I expect these to be in service for quite a while. Also, see my photo of the junction box.. the photos in the listing are a little misleading... the black/white/green leads are NOT outside the box (which would defeat the purpose of having the box in the first place). They appear to have thought it was more 'photogenic' to pose the wires like that... it almost caused me to NOT buy the product, but I am glad I presumed that the engineers knew what they were doing and the photographer did not. :-) I have these 12W units spaced 6ft apart on a ~7.5ft ceiling on a dimmer circuit.
When finishing our basement we decided against traditional "can" lighting. We opted for these 6" thin dimmable dics that produce a (3,000k) warm light. They look nice installed and produce a pleasing warm light that is 100 Watt equivalent before being dimmed.
Here are some things we learned:
1. When your electrician runs the wire that is to be covered by drywall (or other ceiling material) BE SURE that the light location is well marked !! Dry wall installers must preserve the light locations with a visible nail or something similar. In addition, note the location of the light locations on a ceiling map. Measure the inches from walls and from each other.
You will be sorry if you haven't properly made note of the 110 wire and light locations. We had to fish around for the 110 wiring on two of our lights. That was time consuming and not fun.
2. With the light locations properly marked or located it is very to use a 6" hole saw to make a perfect cut in the ceiling. Then, reach in for the wire, connect inside of the provided junction box, connect the output wire to the light disc, insert the disc into the 6" hole and you are done.
3. If you want to use a dimmer switch, go with a Lutron LED compatible dimmer. that switch will go from 100% down to about 5% with no problems.
4. TORCHSTAR sells sells directly through Amazon and also as Amazon "other buying options." The prices may vary a few dollars but it's the same lights. I was able to buy all the lights we needed by buying from both locations.
5. The Electrician that installed my lights was impressed and is now buying these lights for some of his other customers. He liked the quality, ease of installation and the finished look,
Excellent Lights. Just a heads up, these are very warm. Warmer than 3000K. Realistically 2500-2700K. They did not match the rest of the 3000K bulbs in my house, so I went ahead and ordered a set of the 4000K, hoping they'd be closer. They weren't. The 4000K were much bluer than my existing lights, so I had to return them and stick with the 3000K. My wife says to just deal with it. I had an issue with one of the J-Box assemblies not sending power to the LED panel. It must have had a faulty voltage regulator inside the junction box. One thing I will say is, make sure the dimmer switch you are using is high quality rated for LED bulbs. The first dimmer I tried to use ($15 Leviton brand from Home Depot) worked, but made the bulbs flash on the lowest setting. I ordered a $25 Lutron CL series dimmer (as the company recommends) and it is spectacular. They dim almost to the point where there is no light without any flickering. I am extremely happy with these and plan to order more in the future.
These lights are fantastic! I'm a home improvement contractor and so I find myself in a lot of homes working with a lot of different types of lights. For the homeowner, I found that the color of the light was perfect (I installed the 3000k which I found indistinguishable from incandescent - and I'm pretty OCD about color temp). I wasn't sure about the low-profile/flush design at first but they look really, really nice. I was very satisfied with how they turned out. Photos forthcoming.
Contractors: Great to work with - each unit comes with light, box, wire nuts. Box is really just large enough for fixture leads + 2x14. You've got about a 6" wire lead from box to fixture, which connects via proprietary twist-lock connector. Best part - the fixture will clear 1/2" drywall and still install flush - you shouldn't need to worry about joist location with these. I used Lutron Maestro CFL/LED dimmer which worked perfectly. I'll be trying to push these to all of my customers who want recessed lighting going forward.
I noticed that my electricity bills were sky high and that my office smelled musty. I climbed up into the attic and recognized the same musty smell. I also noticed that the light from the office was almost as bright in the attic as it was down below in the office. Hmm, problem. I started doing research, lots of research and ultimately decided to try these as a solution. Have only installed one so far but I love it and it's going to solve the problems. The look is clean. The air quality is already improved. The light is nice, like daylight. The only thing I wish was that it came with a fireproof foam halo to go between the fixture and the visible ceiling. The baffle is a little narrower than my previous recessed light fixture and so there's a small ugly circle on the ceiling between where the old fixture was and where the new one sits. It would also make the air-tight seal better as the fixture does not have a foam liner.
Feature Product
- Space-saving Solution: Ultra-thin LED recessed ceiling light, high brightness. Only requires 2 inches clearance of ceiling space , perfect solution for your narrow ceiling that doesn't fit for a can
- High-efficiency Lightness: Energy Star certified wafer light, only consume 12 watt, provide 850lm brightness which equals to an 100W halogen lamp, saving $2091 per set in its 36,000 hrs lifespan; frosted LED lens, anti glare and scratch resistant
- Simple Installation: Connect the provided J-box to the light using male/female cable and use spring clip to fix it on the ceiling, hassle free, install in seconds. Recessed can is no longer a limitation for your choice
- Reliable Safety: ETL-listed safety standards, the aluminium lights guarantees corrosion protection and rust prevention, and the sponge gasket effectively improves the sealing performance, which is a perfect fit for your roof and ceiling
- Widely Application: 5%-100% smooth dimming, compatible with most dimmers, the light would meet various needs in applications such as closets, kitchens, hallways, doorways, basement and so on
Description
This warm white wafer light would just be the one you want if you are troubled by the little space
of ceiling or high electricity costs.
Space-saving Design:
For solving the problem that the ceiling is too small to install the normal LED flush light panel, we launch this
recessed slim panel LED Downlight which only occupies 2 inches in height without housing can, supporting retrofit,
remodel or new construction installation.
Energy Conservation:
The light use 90% less energy compared to incandescent and halogen bulbs, and save the $348.5 electricity
cost per light in its 36000 hours lifespan.
Easy and Safe Installation:
The slim design allows for easy retrofit, remodel or new construction installation from below the
Ceiling. Only need 2 inch clearance for installation.
Strict Safety Standards:
Its structure could effectively prevent moisture and heat so that it is suitable for use in humid
environments. Rugged aluminum housing ensures corrosion resistance and excellent heat dissipation.
Widely Application:
The light would meet various needs in applications such as Closets, attics, hallways, bathrooms, kitchens,
basements and any other small areas. Also, we provide you with a 5-year warranty to protect your interests.
Warranty
Comes with 5 years product warranty for customer's rights and benefits, satisfaction guarantee.
Specifications
CRI: >80
Power: 12W
Luminous Flux:850lm
CCT: 3000K Warm White
Dimmable: Yes
Surface Size: 6.85 inches
Back Hole Size: 6.25 inches
Lifespan: 36,000 hrs
Warranty: 5 years
I installed 6 of these in my kitchen last night in about 2.5 hours. The construction is good and the light cast is great! As some have noted, the color is cooler than advertised, but it is very nice. We chose to get these to replace the can lights we had that had an odd CFL bulb that is not only expensive but very finicky as we have had 3 of the cans fail this year meaning we needed to replace the entire can/ballast/bulb and it seemed like it was time for an upgrade. I would have given these 5 stars if the ring that touches the ceiling was slightly larger, as these fit perfectly into an 6" hole with little to no room for forgiveness. After installing, I promptly ordered the recommended dimmer as these are very bright.
I have to rate these 5 stars, because they were a fairly simple install (one issue below), look great, and were a decent price (I paid under 15 each). In many cases, I'd deduct a star for the con, but I can't bring myself to do it. I'd buy these again, and I would recommend them to others. We've only had them in a couple days, so I can't speak to longevity or customer service.
PROS:
These are great lights. They're a competitive price online, and much better than what I found at box stores.
They put out a good amount of light (we put 3 in our 8x6 bathroom and 2 in our 8x6 utility room), and have a good color. We chose the warm white, to keep it a more natural color, and I'll buy the same again.
Install is easy enough. They don't come with a template for drywall cutout. I made a compass with a nail through a piece of plastic and a hole for a pencil exactly 3" away from the nail (shove the nail through the plastic and into the ceiling, go around in a circle with the pencil).
CONS:
There are two tabs on the outside of the metal box to secure them. DIRECTLY above each tab is the hole for your wiring. Your metal compression clamp (sold separately and required by code) that holds the wire in the box, is right in the way of the metal tab. This means you can't do your prep work down at a comfortable level then raise it up and secure the box to the truss. You have to secure the box first, then awkwardly install the clamps.
I bought two of these 6 pack just to see how they look... Well they look and work great I bought 3 more of the 6 (packs) 30 total.
My advise: Is to use irrigation flags to make a tiny hole where you want the light to be just to make sure no obstacles are in the way and/or check attic to double check you don’t drill on a stud.
I Adjusted cutter to 6ins or so...BUT... keep in mind the light wafer is not completely circular on top. it has screw notches which sheetrock hole might need to be cut with a jab saw just a tad to have a snug fit.
You can chose your own tools but this worked for me.
Home Depot tools used:
Dimmer:
Leviton Dimmer with WI-FI technology
Model: DW6HD
Model# R01-DW6HD-1RZ
Internet# 300799634
Store SKU# 1002374961
Cutter: Milwaukee adjustable cutter
Model# 49-56-0320
Internet# 205744284
Store SKU# 1001240064
Irrigation Flags:
Model# 53314
Internet# 100113095
Store SKU# 136038
Halex 3/8 clamp connectors:
Model# 20511
Internet# 100133208
Store SKU# 839647
Store SO SKU# 1000518517
Klein Tool Voltage Tester:
Model# NCVT-1SEN
Internet# 100661787
Store SKU# 780066
Milwaukee Wire strippers:
Model# 48-22-3079
Internet# 202966263
Store SKU# 547005
Store SO SKU# 1000092744
Milwaukee Jab Saw
Model# 48-22-0304
Internet# 202206142
Store SKU# 496462
Store SO SKU# 1000387440
They are amazing! They fit underneath my plumbing with no problem. They were super easy to install. The 'Warm White' LEDs are also very similar to the other LED bulbs I have in my house so the light from them matches / fits in well.
My only complaint would be the wire box is a tad small. I was, however, able to get 3 groups of wires in there (with a little help from duct tape to make sure it stayed closed).
Great lights!
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